This morning I woke to see a post from Seth Godin saying that this is "the only holiday that really matters.” Thanksgiving. Are you freakin' kidding me?
Now, in no way do I intend to“call anyone out” for sending wishes of thankfulness. It is a lovely sentiment and should always be applauded. Still that post stuck in my throat like that little pointy bone in a chicken.
Thanksgiving has always been a day of ambivalence for me.
I love the big family meal where everyone brings something to the table. We all help out setting and cleaning up. I love watching Lila play with her friends, and the very tastes of turkey and cranberry, stuffing and my specialty chocolate pecan pie remind me of this time we spend together.
Am I to be completely honest, if I could suddenly zip back to Atlanta right now to be with the whole ganza mishpacha, I would do it without a second thought. Thanksgiving holds a special place for many expats, because it tends to be a very American holiday.
It’s also my favorite time of the year. Crisp but not too cold to keep you from going outside. The leaves on the ground impart a unique scent to the entire city of Atlanta and everything is quiet on the streets as people sit down for dinner.
On the other hand and a hand that shouldn't -- although too often is -- ignored.
Thanksgiving is a day of mourning for many. It’s the yearly reminder of blankets with smallpox, families murdered, entire peoples marched sick and dying for thousands of miles, stolen land and lost hope.
For this reason, I couldn’t bring myself to post Thanksgiving recipes to mark the day on the Matador Life, and why we chose to post an article on Native American Thanksgiving traditions instead. Definitely check out the wonderful article Candice Walsh, the fabulous associate editor and angry redhead wrote.
Noah and I chatted about it over coffee this morning. He, as always, has a unique view of things, often stated so wryly and succinctly it is difficult to hear. In short, he sees the second view of Thanksgiving as “post colonial guilt.” As expected, I bristle strongly at the suggestion.
“The Indians lost,” he says. “If they had won, we wouldn’t celebrate Thanksgiving. We wouldn’t use their images as mascots for sports teams. Thanksgiving is a victory holiday. That is at base what we are celebrating, and history is littered with this kind of mangled crap.”
South America. Australia. Canada. New Zealand. Name a country where you won’t find someone with a similar history. It's inescapable.
But to celebrate with a feast? It's something I simply can't reconcile.
Should reparations be made?
If so, how? And who? So many of the people living in the US are immigrants – including myself – and have no direct responsibility for what happened aside for our choice to live in a country that now offers greater freedom and opportunity than the countries we left.
I also wonder if we had it to do all over again today, with the knowledge we now have, would we do the same thing again?
The more I write, the more I realize I have no answers, only questions. With that, I leave you with my final one. How can we celebrate all the good we have without remembering what was lost in order to pave the way?
Photos courtesy of Jonathan Hamner's Flickrstream
Pilgrim Edward Winslow described the Pilgrims' Thanksgiving in these words:
"Our harvest being gotten in, our Governor sent four men on fowling [bird hunting] so that we might, after a special manner, rejoice together after we had gathered the fruit of our labors. They four in one day killed as much fowl as... served the company almost a week... Many of the Indians [came] amongst us and... their greatest King, Massasoit, with some ninety men, whom for three days we entertained and feasted; and they went out and killed five deer, which they brought... And although it be not always so plentiful as it was at this time with us, yet BY THE GOODNESS OF GOD WE ARE... FAR FROM WANT."
The history of Thanksgiving in America bagan in 1607 but the first Thanksgiving feast took place in 1621 - NOT because the native Americans lost, but because the Pilgrims were grateful to them for their help! These native Americans helped with food and supplies for the Pilgrims' survival. And they celebrated together.
Happy Thanksgiving!
Posted by: FQ | November 26, 2009 at 09:47 PM
Ah, thanks for the shout-out, Leigh! I had to evaluate my feelings about Thanksgiving after writing that essay, and I'm glad I did. The starving vs. feasting idea really stuck with me, so powerful.
Posted by: Candice | November 27, 2009 at 06:40 PM
I agree with you Leigh! I love the family coming together and the big feast which takes place; but I feel, all to often, people forget about the lives lost. I feel that we should all be giving thanks and acknowledging all those lives which were lost.
The bigger bone I have to pick with this 'holiday' is that we shouldn't have to wait for one particular day of the year to give thanks for everything we're grateful for. That should be something we do on a continuous basis, not just once a year. Perhaps it's just me though.
Either way, great post as usual. For those who couldn't take it, to bad. Their lost, not yours ;-).
Abrazos a todos,
Russo
Posted by: C. Russo | November 27, 2009 at 10:12 PM
Hi Leigh... I just read a great piece, "Minority Death Match," in the September issue of Harper's on reparations. Naomi Klein wrote about a UN conference on racism that the Obama administration and several other governments around the world boycotted for false accusations of anti-Semitism. The interesting point though was that in 2001, just before 9/11, the first conference was held in Durban and ended with a claim that the transatlantic slave trade was a crime against humanity and called for reparations. She points out that reparations in the States have lost in courts because of the statute of limitations, but crimes against humanity do not have statutes of limitations.
Anyway, more to the point today... the conference was boycotted by several governments and Klein suggests that they knew the anti-Semitism accusations were bogus. But since they didn't really want to go to a racism conference and have to deal with the question of reparations, this excuse was as good as any. It's a great read.
I don't know how reparations would work and part of me thinks that it would begin a never-ending cycle of one group claiming another group owes them something. It seems a UN conference on racism and on just how to "pay back" the debt (whether in money or other actions) would be a good place to debate the issues and come up with a solution that would stick. Too bad it was boycotted.
I agree with Russo... their loss, not yours!
Posted by: Angela | November 28, 2009 at 10:07 AM
I don't believe there should be reparations for things that took place so long ago. The world was a different place then. As Angela says it would be neverending. Should the UK sue Italy for the Roman occupation? Better to deal with the here and now and support those who are disadvantaged for whatever reason.
Posted by: Judy | November 28, 2009 at 12:05 PM
Thanksgiving is a fun holiday where we enjoy with our friends and family members to give thanks. I believe if you are thinking about past you might not look at brighter future. These days its celebrated with Joy so enjoy and have fun.
Posted by: Rachael | November 30, 2009 at 07:46 AM
Wow! did people really unsubscribe because of this post? I enjoyed it and see your point, although maybe the fact that I'm not from the US originally has something to do with my not being offended by your words.
Posted by: Ana O'Reilly | June 09, 2010 at 06:12 PM
Fuuhhhh (sight) here is another Ana to say I really enjoy to read it. And i would always subscribe and subscribe to meet your critic point of view. Kisses!
Posted by: Ani Soruco | June 12, 2010 at 06:00 PM
This is a great post, Leigh and I can't believe people unsubscribed either. We are all in total denial of things that have happened in the past that we are benefiting from now. I always had these unexplained feelings that something wasn't right about events like Thanksgiving even when I was a child and had to dress up in "pilgrim" clothes at school. I was obsessed with Native American lore and couldn't understand why we never adopted any of "their" customs. I remember adults not being able to answer my questions and just thought it was because my grandparents were from Poland, not America so they didn't know about that kind of thing. Now I know it's simply because there is a lot that has been left out of our (and other countries too!)history books. We need to grow up and accept that, of course, not everything that happened in the past could be perfect. That's just not possible. It's important to ask questions. That is what the United States was originally meant to stand for, was it not? Asking questions and finding the best way forward.
True, there is no way to go back and make everything right, be we should be thinking about positive actions we can take from this point onward. Thanksgiving could be a great time of healing to reflect on those issues.
Posted by: Marie | June 15, 2010 at 12:28 AM
shocked as well that people unsubscribed. very thoughtful post, leigh. and god, the conversation with noah echoes so many conversations i've had with my partner. thanks for bringing me here.
Posted by: Simone | June 28, 2010 at 10:00 PM
It's weird, because I know I responded to many of the comments on this post, but now they're gone.
I don't remember everything I said previously, but I will say that reparations do make sense to me. Particularly in relation to Native Americans, because there are still many things going on within the US today that are unjust.
In which case, I guess it's not really reparations as much as just doing the right thing.
And yes, people did indeed unsubscribe because of this post. It shocked me at first. Made me wonder why those people subscribed to my blog in the first place. Because I think it's pretty clear that I'm someone who wants to see equal treatment for all people. And what happened in the US (as with so many countries on this planet) is not equal.
But off my soap box. For now. ;)
Posted by: Leigh Shulman | July 02, 2010 at 11:23 AM
I feel like that's one story we tell, and while there is some truth to it, there are so many people who currently live in conditions that remind them every day of the widespread destruction of the people who lived on the US continent bf it was the United States.
I just don't think it's right to entirely ignore that.
ALl that said, it's not that Native Americans have one monolithic opinion about this, either.
Posted by: Leigh Shulman | July 02, 2010 at 11:42 AM
Maybe a fast isn't a bad idea for the holiday. Still allows you to focus on the good parts of life, but it's so much easier to overlook the complicated parts of this holiday when you spend the whole day in the kitchen cooking.
Posted by: Leigh Shulman | July 02, 2010 at 11:43 AM
As always, thanks for your input and insight (And compliments).
Totally agree that it's important to be thankful every day of our lives. It's just too bad those people jumped ship and didn't bother saying why. At least it would have opened discussion.
Posted by: Leigh Shulman | July 02, 2010 at 11:45 AM
Any chance you still have that Harper's article at your place? I'd love to read it. Otherwise, I'll do a search.
And you make a very good point re the UN conference. Although I do often wonder how much good the UN does on that end. Sometimes, it seems that they make a bunch of declarations and then have a bunch of meetings, and I'm not sure why.
I'd love to be shown wrong on that end, though. Because they have a lot of money, and there's the potential for so much positive.
Posted by: Leigh Shulman | July 02, 2010 at 11:46 AM
What about reparations that correct current wrongs?
One example: The Badlands in South Dakota technically on paper even according to the US government belong to the Lakota Sioux people. But it's set aside as national park land. (Mount Rushmore).
Perhaps actually give it back? Figure a way to share it? Something else?
Posted by: Leigh Shulman | July 02, 2010 at 11:48 AM
I agree you can't live in the past, but when your past so painfully effects your present, it is hard to ignore.
Much of Indian culture was effectively wiped out by colonization. There are some tribes that no longer exist. Others that only have one or two people left. Homes, land, life and choice was taken away.
I don't feel right overlooking that to celebrate in joy.
I do tend to ascribe to the forgive and move on belief, but some things must be addressed before it is possible to move on.
Posted by: Leigh Shulman | July 02, 2010 at 11:50 AM
It's possible. Maybe the same for me. I was born in South Africa, although I've spend the vast majority of my life in the US and think of myself as American (US citizen, anyway).
I think people hear criticism in my words and don't see past that. Often, i think that is taken as being against something. I think of it as corrective. In the same way I might tell myself to eat better or stop getting frustrated with my mother or to be more grateful for the things in my life.
And sometimes, it's difficult to address really big wrongs we've done.
Posted by: Leigh Shulman | July 02, 2010 at 11:52 AM
Besos, to you too, Ani. Gracias!!
Posted by: Leigh Shulman | July 02, 2010 at 11:53 AM
Perfectly said, Marie. I couldn't say it better.
Posted by: Leigh Shulman | July 02, 2010 at 11:53 AM
Hey Simone,
What's your take on those conversations?
I find them frustrating, but in a way, it's refreshing to hear him so honestly yet dispassionately discuss these issues. He makes no apologies as to the destructive nature of these histories.
The part that's difficult for me is that it feels like he's saying we have to accept it. Perhaps there is some truth to that.
It's not a simple issue.
Posted by: Leigh Shulman | July 02, 2010 at 11:56 AM